1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,280 Everything went according to the police has shown. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,160 I hit Marianne and my daughter asked to help me. 3 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:15,140 Chairman, I would like to have a discussion with my client. You realize that I'm on 4 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:15,719 am doing. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,720 I've had it, Frank. 6 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:19,380 I want Julie back. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,720 Julie Bergman thought Marianne was dead was at the time when her father was her 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,800 asked to help. 9 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:30,060 Can you kill someone you know think he's already dead? 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,120 I doubt my words client. 11 00:00:33,470 --> 00:00:34,670 Frank, you don't have it right away. 12 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:39,370 Who says he can't make his statement has traveled because he is here and now 13 00:00:39,370 --> 00:00:40,370 want to protect daughter? 14 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:43,310 She is always looking for someone who has it life for her. 15 00:00:43,690 --> 00:00:46,290 She needs a prosthesis, so to speak in order to exist. 16 00:00:46,570 --> 00:00:49,990 I especially know that both that father and that daughter has been inside us all the time 17 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:50,990 face lying. 18 00:00:51,210 --> 00:00:53,310 That father, yes. But that daughter? 19 00:00:53,570 --> 00:00:55,270 I really don't see the wise ones easily lie. 20 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:59,110 Maybe it's not a bad thing that you too meet individually with a therapist 21 00:00:59,110 --> 00:01:00,110 speak. Thank you. 22 00:01:00,630 --> 00:01:01,630 Anything else? 23 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:08,500 What was that? 24 00:01:08,540 --> 00:01:10,260 You would make such a beautiful couple. 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,160 Is that? 26 00:01:12,420 --> 00:01:16,940 Should I keep looking in my wheelchair? how you are wasting your life 27 00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:18,820 by staying with me? 28 00:01:21,060 --> 00:01:22,140 What is that? 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,500 We have a burglary. My daughter can you tell me where to get the rest of the 30 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:27,500 kitchen you can find. 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,960 Mom, seriously. I don't have that done. 32 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:38,580 I couldn't have known the whole thing either school that would see photos. 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,800 We're going to the police with your cell phone you tell me something. 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Dad, please don't do that. I'm going my not report the child to the police 35 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:46,960 really can't. 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,600 Shouldn't he be asked? 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,540 Yes, I understand your question, ma'am, but... I can't go into that. But him 38 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:56,240 has obtained me. 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,280 I can let you go with my doctor's note, without having to go into further detail. 40 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,480 And you won't have to do that tomorrow come. 41 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:31,340 Julie Bergman? 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,400 I am Tom Verbeke, inspector at the local police in Antwerp. 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,520 We don't have such good news for you. 44 00:02:39,020 --> 00:02:40,800 I think it's best if you go for a while sit. 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Our emergency services responded to your emergency this morning stepfather found dead. 46 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Where's daddy? 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,660 Your daddy has been arrested in connection with that research. 48 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,440 That's not possible. Why? 49 00:03:12,220 --> 00:03:13,900 It has been completely decomposed. 50 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,520 They arrested Dad and they want me don't say why. 51 00:03:21,060 --> 00:03:24,580 That had to look like an accident. I went to God damn it on crosses. 52 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:31,480 I'm going to go to the police and I'm going say that I accidentally loved Marianne 53 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,480 pushed down the stairs. 54 00:03:35,630 --> 00:03:36,630 It's my daddy. 55 00:03:45,150 --> 00:03:46,510 You shouldn't worry. 56 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:50,390 I'm not going to reveal anything. 57 00:05:17,780 --> 00:05:18,780 Dad? 58 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:25,880 Dad, Uncle Pix is ​​here. 59 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,500 I called him. 60 00:05:40,020 --> 00:05:41,020 Boy, boy. 61 00:05:41,980 --> 00:05:44,000 That you dare to come there, boy. 62 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Dennis, boy. 63 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:51,330 You're allowed to be angry at me and at the world as much as you want, but you have to get in today 64 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:52,330 which are courtroom. 65 00:05:52,890 --> 00:05:54,870 Otherwise, it goes for the rest of you to regret life. 66 00:06:17,890 --> 00:06:19,390 That night of the barbecue. 67 00:06:20,890 --> 00:06:22,650 Then I went back for mine portfolio. 68 00:06:25,870 --> 00:06:28,630 Yes, I went upstairs to meet with Marianne to chat. 69 00:06:29,210 --> 00:06:30,210 Where? 70 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:33,250 Marianne had told me that she everything about that Spanish apartment for you 71 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:35,570 and would tell Anneke if I told her would not pay back immediately. 72 00:06:39,070 --> 00:06:40,330 I don't know what I was going to do there. 73 00:06:43,470 --> 00:06:45,790 Maybe I thought them this time would listen. 74 00:06:48,590 --> 00:06:51,630 When I got upstairs, I still had that cat never seen like that. It was completely over 75 00:06:51,630 --> 00:06:52,630 her tours. 76 00:06:54,910 --> 00:06:56,990 Marianne had told Anton that she was coming wanted him away. 77 00:07:02,250 --> 00:07:07,830 She asked me if I would still have her want. 78 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,720 What did you say? 79 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,340 That she had to care. 80 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,020 That she stood in line for her before you to move on. 81 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,640 Doctor Peters, good morning. 82 00:08:04,900 --> 00:08:09,160 No, today we have the doctor next to you a place of buddies. 83 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,400 That would be early at half past ten. 84 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,540 Yes, okay. Yes, that has been noted. Pleasant day yet. Day. 85 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,100 Mrs. Gray, it's up to you. 86 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,060 Dear members of the jury. 87 00:09:13,380 --> 00:09:18,240 In a moment you will consult two questions of guilt per accused person 88 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,220 answer. Is Anton Bergman here present? 89 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,060 guilty of the death of Marianne Koens? And if so, was the manslaughter committed with 90 00:09:28,060 --> 00:09:29,240 premeditations. 91 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:33,120 You answer the same two questions for Julie Bergman. 92 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:40,020 To be able to condemn someone, it is important that at least eight members include 93 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:42,640 you can vote yes on the guilt question. 94 00:09:43,340 --> 00:09:48,580 If there are only seven, then seven yes's and five no's, then we call it 95 00:09:48,580 --> 00:09:50,420 a questionable majority. 96 00:09:51,070 --> 00:09:55,830 In that case, both I and my assessors agree. Then we have 97 00:09:55,830 --> 00:09:56,830 together one voice. 98 00:09:58,030 --> 00:10:03,990 So now there will be an equal vote six yeses, six nos, then the 99 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:05,350 accused acquitted. 100 00:10:06,050 --> 00:10:07,230 Is that clear? 101 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:09,309 Thank you. 102 00:10:09,310 --> 00:10:12,250 Then the head now contracts again with the jury. 103 00:10:19,270 --> 00:10:21,300 Okay. How do we start this? 104 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,020 Otherwise we'll have to take them both apart first discuss. First Julie, then Anton. 105 00:10:27,340 --> 00:10:30,200 I would then suggest going with the eldest to start. 106 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:31,540 Okay, good. 107 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,560 They both confessed, so I think that's not that difficult. 108 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,820 Guilty and guilty. 109 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,480 Let's get each other out of Anton's doubts himself to his client's statement. 110 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,100 The one in the dark. 111 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:45,780 A beautiful speech. 112 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,660 We're not going to fall for that. 113 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:49,180 But I do follow what he says. 114 00:10:49,940 --> 00:10:51,120 Such a confession, yes. 115 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:52,500 How to prove that? 116 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:57,180 What if Anton effectively takes the blame wants to take care of his daughter 117 00:10:57,180 --> 00:10:58,180 protect? 118 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:59,699 Is it possible? 119 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:02,760 Yes, but there were two perpetrators. That has been demonstrated by Parket. 120 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,860 That means Anton is not alone protect daughter, but also, 121 00:11:05,940 --> 00:11:07,160 so to speak, those other perpetrators. 122 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,460 Yeah, but you're turning all that around here? 123 00:11:11,180 --> 00:11:15,440 Wow, that girl really has two years kept silent to protect her father. 124 00:11:15,850 --> 00:11:19,690 And then she realized that wasn't going to work succeed, yes, then it is the truth 125 00:11:19,690 --> 00:11:20,690 said. 126 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:24,990 Why would Julie get everything right first? take herself to hold her father 127 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:26,870 accuse? That doesn't make any sense, does it? 128 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:32,630 Maybe we should just all do it once learned facts. 129 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:39,630 According to the medical examiner, Marian probably died between nine 130 00:11:39,630 --> 00:11:40,830 o'clock in the evening and three o'clock at night. 131 00:11:41,470 --> 00:11:43,950 And where Anton was at that moment, that no one knows. 132 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,000 He did leave a voicemail at Dennis's. 133 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,640 I hope you have what you wanted now bastard. I'm glad I got rid of it 134 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,300 am. I'm not going to grieve her for a second. 135 00:11:54,940 --> 00:11:57,000 There, he says it literally. 136 00:11:57,260 --> 00:11:59,440 You can do that in different ways interpret ways? 137 00:12:01,620 --> 00:12:06,480 What is certain is that he will arrive at eight o'clock the living room was sleeping, that he was tired 138 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,040 and that it was full of Marianne's blood. 139 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,200 And that Dennis has it that morning found. 140 00:12:10,540 --> 00:12:11,540 Say, Dennis. 141 00:12:21,450 --> 00:12:25,390 If the judge finds me guilty, how I will have to stay in prison for a long time 142 00:12:25,390 --> 00:12:26,390 stay? 143 00:12:28,350 --> 00:12:33,190 If we answer both questions, yes answers, then the maximum penalty is 144 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:38,390 life imprisonment. But if there extenuating circumstances into account 145 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:39,950 are brought in, then it can drop. 146 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:42,990 And daddy? 147 00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:44,750 Also. 148 00:12:48,490 --> 00:12:51,150 Then she said believe what Frank is into plea said. 149 00:12:52,830 --> 00:12:56,690 That your dad actually doesn't know what anymore happened then. 150 00:12:57,210 --> 00:13:00,150 And that he said all that to protect you. 151 00:13:03,090 --> 00:13:05,270 Approximately how long will the jury be together? 152 00:13:05,810 --> 00:13:11,710 But that would mean that you accuse your daddy of something he did 153 00:13:11,710 --> 00:13:12,710 hasn't done. 154 00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:15,410 Why would I do that? 155 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,580 I know Frank de Donker better than I do would like and I know his plea 156 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:24,580 was sincere. 157 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,740 He really doesn't believe your father. 158 00:13:31,420 --> 00:13:32,600 Is he right? 159 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:36,680 Are you lying? 160 00:13:39,020 --> 00:13:40,020 Of course not. 161 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,060 The medical examiner also said that Marianne has received two strokes 162 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:54,060 her head. 163 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,280 And then there was the tidying up blood trail from the living room to the basement. 164 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,960 And a bloody shoe print from Julie in the bedroom. 165 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,920 Yes, that's super important. 166 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,900 Because there are no other traces of it Found Julie. So yes, someone has to 167 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:09,120 got it cleaned up. 168 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,680 Yes, that's still true two have said. 169 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,680 Because Anton has cleaned everything up. 170 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:18,380 But that house was still full of shoe prints of Anton and Dennis. 171 00:14:19,690 --> 00:14:21,690 Yes, they must have been that has been cleaned. 172 00:14:23,550 --> 00:14:29,070 So Anton has cleaned everything up Went back to Marianne to get everything dirty 173 00:14:29,070 --> 00:14:33,130 to make his statement knock. That's... That's quite 174 00:14:33,130 --> 00:14:34,730 sharp for someone who was so fed up. 175 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:39,530 Or he actually found her, like he has always said, and is with blood 176 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:42,170 by his shoes to the living room gone. Yes, but then who has her? 177 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:43,170 cleaned up? 178 00:14:43,930 --> 00:14:44,930 Julie herself? 179 00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:46,630 Or someone else? 180 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,520 Still that other second Dada? 181 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,900 Yes, then that is the motive. 182 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Marian's legacy. 183 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:56,000 He was also very close to Julie. 184 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:57,680 They were all in the shower. 185 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Don't know. 186 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,320 And that Pix was still there the night she... has died. 187 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,160 I really don't understand it very well. 188 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,800 Two people have been accused by it parquet. 189 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:11,320 And we also knew those two people. 190 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,620 Then why are we making one here? different story from? 191 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,540 We simply list the facts. 192 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,740 And then I don't see any objective evidence showing that Anton Marianne 193 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:22,760 effectively murdered. 194 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:24,760 So I have doubts. 195 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,820 So you say innocent? Yes, but I can no different. 196 00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:30,840 Yeah, I'm not convinced either. 197 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,400 I follow. 198 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:34,140 I also say innocent. 199 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,100 Not me. 200 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:37,300 I do. 201 00:15:37,660 --> 00:15:40,040 It's innocent for me too. 202 00:15:40,420 --> 00:15:41,420 No. 203 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:46,000 No, that guy killed his wife and he has his daughter in it 204 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,580 dragged along. That's how it is. 205 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:49,300 He even confessed. 206 00:15:50,060 --> 00:15:51,640 And why? 207 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:54,860 Because he saw his wife kissing her ex. 208 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,220 Because he can no longer control her had. 209 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,580 Because he no longer had his desire. 210 00:16:00,980 --> 00:16:04,700 He's a manipulative guy. 211 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:06,340 That's right. 212 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:09,860 A jealous egoist. 213 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Well said, Katrien. 214 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,700 I've said that from the beginning two have done it. 215 00:17:17,549 --> 00:17:19,510 Are you okay, Cathé? 216 00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:24,589 Your argument was still wasteful. 217 00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:29,430 I'm probably wrong, but I... felt a bit addressed. 218 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:31,050 No. 219 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,140 You're not mistaken? 220 00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:36,200 You don't compare me to that one murderer? 221 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:37,880 No. 222 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,980 Especially with that egoist who can't say no tolerate. 223 00:17:45,620 --> 00:17:46,620 Cathy. 224 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,860 Stop it, okay? You would accuse me. 225 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,180 I can't laugh at that. 226 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:52,500 Me neither. 227 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,500 And neither does Anne, I think. 228 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,380 And neither does Sylvia. 229 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:00,500 And Monique. 230 00:18:02,670 --> 00:18:03,810 They're just friends. 231 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:06,770 I want you to reassure me, Jacob. 232 00:18:07,470 --> 00:18:08,950 But I'm not doing anything wrong there. 233 00:18:09,170 --> 00:18:11,650 And I want you to stop chasing me make. 234 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:15,250 I wish you wouldn't mind anything anymore tells me. 235 00:18:17,850 --> 00:18:19,070 One more sentence. 236 00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:22,130 One word. And I'm with the cops. 237 00:18:23,850 --> 00:18:25,090 What's wrong with you? 238 00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:46,610 I think that's innocent too. 239 00:18:48,610 --> 00:18:50,610 Her confession alone doesn't convince me. 240 00:18:55,450 --> 00:19:00,210 If we condemn them without any respect proof, what are we doing? 241 00:19:04,030 --> 00:19:07,090 You surprise me. 242 00:19:32,410 --> 00:19:33,530 Bismillah. – Bismillah. 243 00:19:34,330 --> 00:19:35,330 Say. 244 00:19:40,330 --> 00:19:41,950 Has Lubna said where she met her? went to? 245 00:19:42,330 --> 00:19:43,330 - No. 246 00:19:44,350 --> 00:19:45,530 Not in the restaurant, in the junk shop? 247 00:19:45,970 --> 00:19:47,750 Moerad, that's none of our business more, huh? 248 00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:49,630 She's been given enough chances. 249 00:19:49,930 --> 00:19:51,330 She has been in rehab for almost a year. 250 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:54,750 Was she into it? Well, better there than here. But we don't know your own daughter 251 00:19:54,750 --> 00:19:55,709 agree. 252 00:19:55,710 --> 00:19:56,710 Excuse me? 253 00:20:00,090 --> 00:20:02,610 Someone who drives around with her younger one brother. 254 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:06,090 Who sniffs her money, who sniffs her a comes begging a bit. And if you give them a 255 00:20:06,090 --> 00:20:08,190 gives her the key, and she will steal your entire room away. 256 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:09,830 That's not my daughter. 257 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:20,330 That burglary is my fault. 258 00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:23,630 I got her up. 259 00:20:25,910 --> 00:20:27,550 Just show me the images and... 260 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,120 There were some young guys there, so Lubna has nothing to do with it. 261 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:33,180 And then again, it's better that they're here is no more. 262 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:52,800 And mom, that old accident of Lubna's... I will then 263 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,800 behind the whining. 264 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,000 I had delayed Loubna to give me a tour to drive. 265 00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:06,780 I drove onto the track and then... Me didn't see that cyclist, mom. 266 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,280 I was in a panic and I kept driving and I didn't know where. 267 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:15,760 Loubna drove back to go help. 268 00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:20,740 I had no room. She has against the damn it said she was behind the wheel 269 00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:21,740 Sat. 270 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,800 Why didn't she ever say that to us? 271 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:31,830 To protect her. 272 00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:39,030 And why didn't you ever say anything? against us? 273 00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:51,350 Why do you continue? 274 00:21:51,670 --> 00:21:54,030 I'll go get my daughter and you'll stay sit. 275 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,400 Okay, shall we do that now Julie? 276 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:07,700 Yes. 277 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:12,380 So Marianne died between nine o'clock in the evening and three o'clock at night. 278 00:22:12,660 --> 00:22:16,160 And Julie was home between ten o'clock evening and midnight. 279 00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:20,880 There was also a sweater in the washing machine and there was still Marianne's blood there 280 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,880 between the zipper. 281 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,900 And Julie had a motive too, because Marianne wanted to send her to boarding school. 282 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,040 Julie, her motive isn't important. 283 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,720 Anton knocked. 284 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:31,160 She was allowed to help him. 285 00:22:31,620 --> 00:22:33,320 Yes, they say that, but what are the facts? 286 00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:34,820 Facts? 287 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Julie threw Marjan down the stairs. 288 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Does that make her guilty of murder? 289 00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:43,360 She must therefore spend the rest of her life bear consequences, simply because they are bad 290 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:44,480 her father listened? 291 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,680 I did ask that. That's still a child. He didn't know what he was doing at all 292 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,680 do laundry. 293 00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:52,680 Sorry, but that's the age you are expected to know what you are doing 294 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,680 you are. 295 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,340 Can we mainly talk about where the lawyer says? 296 00:22:58,660 --> 00:23:01,600 Did Julie know that Marjan was still alive when she... threw her down the stairs? 297 00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:03,220 Yes, but... 298 00:23:03,370 --> 00:23:06,570 As a confession not as evidence applies, why would you go there again? 299 00:23:06,570 --> 00:23:07,970 should take into account what she thought? 300 00:23:08,410 --> 00:23:11,450 Her lawyer said you didn't can kill someone who is already dead. 301 00:23:11,970 --> 00:23:13,530 But she wasn't dead. 302 00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:15,190 But Julie thought so, right? 303 00:23:15,530 --> 00:23:17,890 Yes, that's what she claims. But who says that? that's true? 304 00:23:18,410 --> 00:23:21,470 According to the medical examiner, the cause of death is: suffocation. 305 00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:23,650 And that's what Anton did. 306 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:28,230 So then it's not Julie after all guilty of murder? 307 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:30,970 Voila. At best she is complicit. 308 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,560 And above all, she is a victim, because without her father she was never in that 309 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,780 situation. Yes, but suffocation. 310 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,180 That point bleeding was just as good could be resuscitation, right? 311 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,940 Yeah, we just don't know, do we? 312 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,060 Yes, but it assumes. 313 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:51,600 If you have any doubts about certain matters, I advise you to file the file 314 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,279 to watch. 315 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,140 You can find the complete research there find. Yes? 316 00:23:57,130 --> 00:24:01,170 Like that point movement of that CPR is, then it is not guilty of it 317 00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:04,310 suffocation. Because then she is right want to resuscitate. 318 00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:09,230 Maybe she would already be dead when she got to the lay on the ground. Yes, but it's about one 319 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:10,890 gasket. I don't know that anyway. 320 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,260 Suffocation. Signs of obtuse, heavy-handed impact to the head, two 321 00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:18,980 abrasion wounds in the scalp skin. 322 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:22,440 Although the death of the patient in all likelihood 323 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,100 writing is suffocating, of which sufficient elements for the victim 324 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:29,160 could be found, the brain swelling in second instance 325 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,620 may also have led to brain failure and delayed death. 326 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,240 So he doesn't know. 327 00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:42,560 But as it says here, she would anyway Did you also die from that fall from the stairs? 328 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:48,460 In principle, yes. But that Anton has admitted that he is just suffocating 329 00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:49,460 has, man, say. 330 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,460 That Julie, where he thought, he finds not really that important? 331 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,000 The perpetrator's intention is certainly there important, yes. 332 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,020 Take a car accident for example. 333 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,480 If you accidentally hit someone and they someone dies... 334 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,060 Don't you be prosecuted and killed. 335 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,660 But if you deliberately hit that person, then yes. 336 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,340 Suppose Julie didn't know that 100% Marianne was still alive. Then she still has 337 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:23,760 only did what her father did has asked. 338 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,520 We really can't know where it is I was thought of at that moment. 339 00:25:29,660 --> 00:25:33,140 That is now something every jury member is in favor of should decide for itself. 340 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,280 Or you believe Julie. 341 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,560 You must be consistent in that thought and no answers to the 342 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,580 debt question. If you don't believe Julie, do you answer yes to the question of guilt? 343 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,540 And yet I don't think so most important. 344 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,580 Anton knocked. He has her suffocated. 345 00:25:57,820 --> 00:26:00,640 She just happened to be at the wrong one place at the wrong time. 346 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:02,780 Yes. And I don't believe her. 347 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,280 Me neither. 348 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,320 I do. 349 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,560 Sometimes I don't know anymore. 350 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,580 Alas, that child did something she... never thought possible before. 351 00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:18,020 But is that really her fault? 352 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040 I don't think he's that innocent as he looks. 353 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,260 Yes, I suggest differently to each juror is again without luxury. 354 00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:48,900 And what do your parents say? 355 00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:39,510 Please sit down. 356 00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:48,390 The accused are allowed to enter. 357 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,020 Then we will now make the decision of the announce the jury. 358 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,580 Mr. Bergman. 359 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:27,280 In view of the statement of the judging jury on today's date, 360 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:28,600 which reads as follows. 361 00:28:29,180 --> 00:28:33,440 To the questions asked regarding the debt by Mr Anton Bergman. 362 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,900 Yes to both questions. 363 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,980 Miss Bergman, regarding the statement of the judging jury 364 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:57,700 today's date regarding the debt of Miss Julie Bergman, the answer to 365 00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:59,940 the first question is no. 366 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,700 The second question is therefore not answered. 367 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,120 Mr. Bergman, the judging jury has condemned you. 368 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,600 for the most serious crime that our society knows. 369 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,000 After the jury's deliberation on the penalty, condemns it or you hereby, 370 00:29:22,140 --> 00:29:26,300 for the murder of Marianne Koens, until life imprisonment. 371 00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:30,500 Mrs Bergman, you are hereby free to to go. 372 00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:37,240 The convict may be accompanied. 373 00:29:54,500 --> 00:30:01,160 Then all that remains is for me to complete all the parties thank you for the serenity in which this 374 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,520 process has been completed. 375 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Thank you. 376 00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:09,720 I hereby declare the hearing adjourned ended. 377 00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:24,000 We defended ourselves well, boy. Er we are not to blame. 378 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,060 That's not what you're talking about, is it? 379 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,640 I guess you'll have to try to give out a place. 380 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:33,740 Okay? 381 00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:06,340 Say, I signed up for Salsa. 382 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,200 Are you not in the mood? 383 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,560 Oof, oof. 384 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,780 What bothers you about that woman Leenthuizen? 385 00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:14,540 Come on. 386 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Mrs. Bergman, finally free. What are you going to do now? I think you are loose 387 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,440 aged for two years. 388 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880 It's been a very long week. But I ask my clients to take a look at her 389 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,480 to bring positives. Thank you. 390 00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:31,780 What do you think of the video with Mrs Berlinde? 391 00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:37,170 I'm glad that during the process the truth has come close and that one 392 00:31:37,170 --> 00:31:38,190 perpetrator was convicted. 393 00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:40,430 Justice has been done, I would say. 394 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,440 It often was. 395 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Yes, for us. 396 00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:28,820 Nothing more to do about it. 397 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,080 So, that's our last bus trip together. 398 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,840 Yes, I'll stay in town. 399 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,300 My mate steps up. 400 00:32:37,860 --> 00:32:39,860 I'm not going to see if they can still do it without me. 401 00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:45,560 How is Esther? 402 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Okay, we have one next week appointment at the pain clinic and she wants 403 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,080 listen again anyway. 404 00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:55,350 Is it you? 405 00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:59,250 Okay. 406 00:33:00,070 --> 00:33:01,070 Come here. 407 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:05,170 That we know if you ever look at cars must be correct. I do. 408 00:33:06,390 --> 00:33:07,390 Wet. 409 00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:53,530 Can dad actually still appeal? 410 00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:57,230 No. That is not possible at Assise. 411 00:33:59,350 --> 00:34:02,690 He could still go to cassation, but that is only possible if there is 412 00:34:02,690 --> 00:34:04,490 procedural errors have been made. 413 00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:05,710 Yes, still. 414 00:34:09,870 --> 00:34:14,570 But you were acquitted. So you can will no longer be convicted anyway. 415 00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:21,290 You cannot be tried twice for the same crime. 416 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,500 But daddy can still get out. 417 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,040 If there is new evidence, then it is possible investigation may be reopened. 418 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,739 Being innocent in prison. 419 00:34:41,659 --> 00:34:44,800 That's one of the worst things that a can happen to people. 420 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,680 Who is so important to you that you would do something like that to your father? 421 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,400 Nobody. 422 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,280 I hope so. 423 00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:15,220 It'll work. 424 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Thank you. 425 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,880 Can I come in? 426 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,700 I didn't think you were coming again. 427 00:38:54,140 --> 00:38:55,140 Of course. 428 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,740 Painter, it's okay, right? It is anyway succeeded? 429 00:39:09,860 --> 00:39:10,860 Dad then? 430 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:12,140 Julie. 431 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,200 I never wanted to say it again. 432 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,740 I was panicking. 433 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,640 Julie, he did that himself. 434 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,320 He himself said he was there. 435 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,980 That's his own fault. 436 00:39:26,220 --> 00:39:28,120 We can finally do what we do want. 437 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:31,100 Nobody will think about us anymore. 438 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,840 Sometimes? Don't know. 439 00:39:52,580 --> 00:39:54,900 I don't know what happened. 440 00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:58,340 Julie, my mom couldn't stand it. 441 00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:01,260 She was going to ruin everything. 442 00:40:03,060 --> 00:40:05,080 But my dad couldn't handle that anyway do. 443 00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:10,080 Hey, you're thinking too much. 444 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,480 Come here. 445 00:40:50,279 --> 00:40:53,080 Calm. Like this. 446 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,080 just missed so much. 447 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,200 Me too. 448 00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:12,980 Julie, listen. 449 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,720 I'm not going to tell anyone what happened happened here. 450 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,480 Okay? 451 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:54,560 When Romy and Marianne came to us live, it was really completely different. 452 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,660 I never had Romy seeing me expected. 453 00:42:58,980 --> 00:43:04,500 He was so handsome, funny, smart too. 454 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,760 Hey. 455 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,120 Hey. 456 00:43:57,529 --> 00:43:59,570 I dared everything that I never would dare. 457 00:44:04,050 --> 00:44:05,050 But my hair does. 458 00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:08,180 Ça va? 459 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,640 Are you okay? 460 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,640 Sorry. 461 00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:21,980 For him to be my girlfriend, I could don't believe that. 462 00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:24,860 It really had everything. 463 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:28,400 But Verwint, I know you thought that. 464 00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:32,560 That's the nicest thing you can say. 465 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,260 I really got everything from Marjan that he had wanted. 466 00:44:37,580 --> 00:44:39,020 I hope that teacher speaks to Mom. 467 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,600 Yes? 468 00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:16,210 The weather is so nice today. 469 00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:18,650 Real. 470 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,040 They had to stay together forever. 471 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,260 Marianne had to ruin everything here. 472 00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:09,580 Here it is taken from you and now... That is goddamn your sister, huh? 473 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,040 Stepsister, you know. 474 00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,900 That's family, she said. 475 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,160 That's not true at all, is it? 476 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,520 I want that to stop now. 477 00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:20,050 Then Romy went back to live with Dennis. 478 00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:23,050 She said she missed her father. 479 00:46:23,850 --> 00:46:24,950 She missed Marianne. 480 00:46:26,110 --> 00:46:27,730 She said otherwise she would have no more money got. 481 00:46:28,250 --> 00:46:30,470 That was all she could think of and she knew it. 482 00:46:33,370 --> 00:46:34,370 Romy was furious. 483 00:46:35,090 --> 00:46:36,990 Marianne never had time and now she went bother. 484 00:46:37,570 --> 00:46:40,290 Nobody should tell me what to do don't do it, not even mom. That's what she said. 485 00:46:43,090 --> 00:46:46,510 Of course we still saw each other without it that Marianne knew. 486 00:46:48,590 --> 00:46:50,390 What were we supposed to do? We couldn't without each other. 487 00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:55,130 And then he trusted us. 488 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:58,270 I didn't mind. 489 00:46:59,650 --> 00:47:00,970 He just wanted to tell Marian. 490 00:47:02,690 --> 00:47:06,810 And he... Romy then said... 491 00:47:06,810 --> 00:47:13,170 Romy then said that I had to have it convince. 492 00:47:14,410 --> 00:47:15,490 To remain silent. 493 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,040 Julie, did you realize how sick that is? 494 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,580 Of course that bastard liked her good deal. 495 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:38,240 Not at all. 496 00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:44,220 And she also has everything against Marian said? 497 00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:49,420 She has then convinced you that one boarding school would be good for me 498 00:47:49,420 --> 00:47:50,420 pints, man. 499 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,800 I don't think that woman is like Romy and take me apart. 500 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,980 You, that's all your fa... 501 00:47:59,009 --> 00:48:01,550 Then Romy got those pills in Marianne her spaghetti Bortina. 502 00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:05,730 You poisoned her. 503 00:48:06,490 --> 00:48:07,490 That's Romy. 504 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:14,530 What? I do that for you, right? 505 00:48:15,170 --> 00:48:17,510 Of course I was angry and I understood not sure why you would do something like that. 506 00:48:19,090 --> 00:48:23,990 But... She just doesn't want me lose. 507 00:48:26,770 --> 00:48:27,770 Her mom does. 508 00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:32,740 Those requested gifts were never there. 509 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,360 He didn't love her. I do. 510 00:48:39,060 --> 00:48:40,640 I wanted to run away, the two of us. 511 00:48:43,260 --> 00:48:47,800 But... Romy said we need money had. 512 00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:49,880 And that Marianne had that. 513 00:48:51,540 --> 00:48:55,660 So... Romy wanted to kill Marianne for the inheritance? 514 00:48:58,180 --> 00:48:59,180 We know, don't we? 515 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,120 I don't want to stand blood. 516 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,040 Should I do it? 517 00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:10,550 Marie-Anne. 518 00:50:11,110 --> 00:50:12,110 Marie-Anne. 519 00:50:16,090 --> 00:50:17,510 Help, do something. 520 00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:19,550 Mommy. 521 00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:23,730 I didn't know it would hurt so much do. 522 00:51:07,630 --> 00:51:08,630 Unpack! 523 00:53:34,510 --> 00:53:35,670 I really didn't mean it that way. 524 00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:38,130 Come on, go now. 525 00:53:42,930 --> 00:53:43,930 Aren't you coming? 526 00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:45,930 No. 527 00:53:47,870 --> 00:53:49,010 That really sucks. 528 00:54:48,010 --> 00:54:49,010 Sorry. 529 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,920 New complications in the process the Cinderella murder, after lawyer 530 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,160 Frank de Donker to the Court of Cassation has been drawn. A juror would 531 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,560 had contact during the process with the chairman. Julie also has 532 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,460 Bergman made new statements that could exonerate her father. 533 00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:29,620 Lawyer Ivo Muilen reacts shocked with the words Who believes that Julie 534 00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:30,620 Bergman still?